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## Meeting 17 Oct
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### Agenda
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- Action points from last meeting
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- Schedule
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- Admin
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### Action points (DECIDED in May)
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- More InfraVis-like collaborations demoing usecases
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- When? **ML afternoon** 2 Dec
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- Data visualization
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- This iteration? Yes
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- Who does? Jayant
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- Move 'Slurm and batch jobs' from Day 3 to Day 2:
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- BC: We already had the introduction?
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- OK toatally second day
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- Pinning versions on the clusters (already doing it partially)
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- prereqs
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- courses
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- login/transfer
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- modules
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- slurm: keep condensed session focus on Python
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- Will will run Markdown next time
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- Still yes??
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- BC: MkDocs should be used then directly
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- 2-step is too expensive (md with sphinx)
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- Delay to May: BC, PO, RP, JY, BB
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- Times
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- Have 15m always
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- Lunch 60 min
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- Give Anders Hast more time
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- In ML session: YES
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- DECIDED Mark exercises as **important** and optional: RB, BB, BC
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- IDEs: keep the schedule as it is
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- DECIDED Present all 3 IDEs but parallel exercise tracks (where learners decide themselves): BC, RP,
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- Videos
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- DECIDED Youtube playlist + table on course web (also NAISS web)
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- the latest available (living table)
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#### Not decided because postponed
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- Recordings
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- DECIDED: always before or during
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- Exercise rooms (perhaps later decision)
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- Let teachers decide how they teach: RB
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- always try to keep 2-3 persons in each room (BC and RB has good experience here): RB
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- larger rooms: RB
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- cluster rooms: RB
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- combination of above: RB
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- [Richel] One fun thing we did in another course, is to let the learners rename themselves, to include the cluster name, e.g. `Thora` becomes `[Dardel] Thora`
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- Let teachers decide how they teach: RB
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- Let's do this in the introduction: RB
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- [Richel] In some courses we measure the initial confidence our learners have at the start,
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such as [Day 1](https://uppmax.github.io/naiss_intro_python/evaluations/20250424/#analysis-pre-and-post).
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What about we do this at the other days too?
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- Never measure the initial confidence: RB, RP
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- Keep it as it is: RB
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- DECIDED Let's try to measure the initial confidence at **each **day: RB, BC, BB
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- Need to formulate well in such case
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- BB: Interconnected courses: we need to connect our courses better
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- Use a working group (i.e. one working group per workshop): BC, RB
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- Agree: RB, BB
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- Not yet:
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- No:
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- Just make sure students know which courses should be taken in what order - need to decide on "curriculum"?
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- JY: ML/DL should be more about workflows than core principles.
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Core principles should be its own separate course.
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- Yes (next time): BC
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- no
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- JY: Do HPC centeres have the packages by Google Collabs?
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- yes:
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- no: To be discusses in future
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- JY: Recording professionalisms, there are better tools than Zoom
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- Postpone
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- JY: How to do recordings, i.e. blurring out names?
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- BB: knows the GDPR rules
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- Postpone
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### [Schedule](https://github.com/UPPMAX/HPC-python/blob/main/docs/schedule.rst)
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#### Input
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- less of matplotlib, pandas, seaborn
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- DECIDED keep some: BC
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- (good to understand how to make graphics avail and as prereq to big data)? BC
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- matplot/pandas 45-50 m x 1
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- load+examples+what they can get out of it + workflows
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- before big data; mention ML prep, memory-saving datatypes
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- <s>VOTE remove all? RP (overruled)</s>
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#### Fri
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- **Theme: packages and IDEs + basic HPC including batch jobs and allocating GPUs?**
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- load-run (skip or shorten because included in first day?)
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- longer with packages (perhaps input from pavlin about pixi and uv)
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- intro to slurm and interactive (only)
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- IDEs
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- we are lacking analysis: should we remove all YES
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#### Mon
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- **Theme: Running and analysing**
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- GPU (intro + Python specific)
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- analyzing: short versions of earlier (matplotlib, pandas, seaborn)
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- big data (dask)
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- we are lacking analysis: should we remove all?
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#### Tue
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- **Theme: ML and development?**
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- parallelism in morning 2 hrs
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- ML
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### Todos
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- Björn renews schedule
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- Further details discussed in chat
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## [Notes from previous meeting](https://github.com/UPPMAX/HPC-python/blob/main/meeting_notes/20250522.md)

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